There’s No Such Thing As a Free Lunch (An Apology to My Readers)

I realize I’m breaking one of the first rules of crisis communications: Don’t bring attention to a fairly confined crisis. But I have to respond to the hate e-mails and phone calls I’ve received as a result of being quoted in today’s Wall Street Journal article, “How a Black Mark Can Derail a Job Search.” If you hadn’t previously read the article, do so now and decide afterward to hate me, so be it.

I recently had the privilege of discussing blacklists with Joann Lublin of the Wall Street Journal. In case you weren’t aware, blacklists are very real. They happen for all sorts of reasons — some warranted and some definitely not. This opportunity came about because I responded to the WSJ‘s request for sources. It’s a topic very near and dear to me, as I strongly believe my mother has been unemployed since December 24, 2007 because of being on a blacklist. I saw this as an opportunity to educate candidates about how they could get off someone’s blacklist.

While I think my record of helping candidates — especially young professionals — speaks for itself, there are countless phone calls, e-mails and comments to the article itself that say otherwise. So, I’m here to defend myself and ask for your forgiveness.

Ms. Lublin did not misquote me. However, probably due to word count limitations and running through the hands of several editors who didn’t actually speak to me, my point was taken too literally and out of context. Because of that, I completely understand the anger being expressed toward me and take full responsibility for it. I should have chosen my words more carefully and/or done more throughout the interview and editing process to prevent it from happening. But, it’s out there now, so this is about all I can do and hope for the best.

I have blacklisted candidates before, as indicated in the article. Is it right to blacklist candidates? Perhaps not. Do I do it anyway? Yes, I do. I’ve had to on several occasions, in fact. And each time for good reason. While you and I may not agree on “good reason,” it’s my job as a hiring manager to look out for my company. Not everyone is the right fit for every job at every organization — showing up doesn’t mean they should hire you.

And the candidates I blacklisted were above and beyond your average “we’ve decided to pursue another candidate more closely aligned with the position qualifications.” They showed up to interviews drunk. They lied about their educational backgrounds. And yes, they forgot when the interview was taking place, exhibited some serious road rage throughout the interview and basically couldn’t remember why they applied for the job in the first place. To me, all of these are deemed “good reasons.”

However, the point attracting the most attention — that I would forgive any candidate who bought me lunch — is just not accurate. Did I give lunch as an example in the process to getting off a blacklist? Absolutely. Do I support “being bought” to get on someone’s good side? Absolutely not!!

I have long been an advocate for candidates. That’s why I write this blog, do all the other things I do and put myself into serious debt to launch Come Recommended last year. So, let me say what I should have said in the article:

Getting off someone’s blacklist is a multi-step process: (1) reaching out and requesting an in-person conversation, (2) asking for constructive feedback about what went wrong and what could be done to correct the mistake, (3) being willing to take the advice of the person who’s blacklisted you, if you’re still interested in getting of his/her blacklist, and (4) following through. If all of that doesn’t work, you’ve at least done your job as a candidate and should attempt to move beyond the situation.

I hope this clears things up a bit. Again, please accept my sincere apologies. I am happy to answer any of your questions, but please be civil!

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  • Ginger

    Heather,

    I thought the article was very enlightening. I didn’t know there were blacklist and I was probably put on one through ignorance on my part.

    When I read your quote I thought it was pretty funny. I just thought you were saying something tongue-in-cheek. Besides, I understand about editing.

  • Ginger

    Heather,

    I thought the article was very enlightening. I didn’t know there were blacklist and I was probably put on one through ignorance on my part.

    When I read your quote I thought it was pretty funny. I just thought you were saying something tongue-in-cheek. Besides, I understand about editing.

  • http://upstarthr.com Ben Eubanks

    I don’t know if these people think that you’re the only one who’s ever blacklisted someone, but they’re wrong. You make a public and easy target for their frustrations.

    Plenty of companies do it, and like you said, some for good and not-so-good reasons. As long as people aren’t doing something bordering on insanity, they’ll probably never even run into this kind of thing.
    .-= Ben Eubanks´s last blog ..The HR Capitalist Challenge =-.

  • http://upstarthr.com Ben Eubanks

    I don’t know if these people think that you’re the only one who’s ever blacklisted someone, but they’re wrong. You make a public and easy target for their frustrations.

    Plenty of companies do it, and like you said, some for good and not-so-good reasons. As long as people aren’t doing something bordering on insanity, they’ll probably never even run into this kind of thing.
    .-= Ben Eubanks´s last blog ..The HR Capitalist Challenge =-.

  • Lindsay

    Good for you, Heather!

    You don’t need to apologize (although it’s very well written and tasteful). You do so much work to HELP young candidates, and from what I’ve read of yours, you are always giving us the benefit of the doubt. I’m sure if this girl (or whoever made it on to your black list) had called and apologized, offered up an explanation and a way to fix their actions, you’d at least bump them back to “We’re going in a different direction with the position” status.

    All this WSJ article really does is assign a name to an action that we all do. When first encountering someone, if they make a horrible impression, we all put check in the “No Way” box.

    Anyone who took your sandwich comment to heart needs to calm down. Seriously. Calm down.

    Keep up the good work!

  • Lindsay

    Good for you, Heather!

    You don’t need to apologize (although it’s very well written and tasteful). You do so much work to HELP young candidates, and from what I’ve read of yours, you are always giving us the benefit of the doubt. I’m sure if this girl (or whoever made it on to your black list) had called and apologized, offered up an explanation and a way to fix their actions, you’d at least bump them back to “We’re going in a different direction with the position” status.

    All this WSJ article really does is assign a name to an action that we all do. When first encountering someone, if they make a horrible impression, we all put check in the “No Way” box.

    Anyone who took your sandwich comment to heart needs to calm down. Seriously. Calm down.

    Keep up the good work!

  • http://www.aspire-empower.com Laura Labovich

    Heather,

    I too was educated about “blacklists” through this article, so I don’t think it was all thatb bad. Having said that, your apology was fabulous. Well-written, authentic, human and above all else, BRAVE. Go you! After reading your (very) public apology, anyone who can’t get past his/her anger over something that was obviously a mistake, seriously has other problems.

    BTW – can’t wait to read your book!

    Laura

  • http://www.aspire-empower.com Laura Labovich

    Heather,

    I too was educated about “blacklists” through this article, so I don’t think it was all thatb bad. Having said that, your apology was fabulous. Well-written, authentic, human and above all else, BRAVE. Go you! After reading your (very) public apology, anyone who can’t get past his/her anger over something that was obviously a mistake, seriously has other problems.

    BTW – can’t wait to read your book!

    Laura

  • http://www.careerealism.com JT O’Donnell

    Hi Heather,

    I agree with Lindsay, no apology needed!

    You work hard to help people with their careers and were making a point about the impact a person’s professionalism has on their ability to get hired – both then and in the future.

    It is interesting to hear that so much emotion is being evoked from the article. I think that is more a sign of the times. Fight of flight. It’s scary for any of us to think that something we’ve done and can’t ‘undo’ could now be costing us work. Yet, it is the time we live in.

  • http://www.careerealism.com JT O’Donnell

    Hi Heather,

    I agree with Lindsay, no apology needed!

    You work hard to help people with their careers and were making a point about the impact a person’s professionalism has on their ability to get hired – both then and in the future.

    It is interesting to hear that so much emotion is being evoked from the article. I think that is more a sign of the times. Fight of flight. It’s scary for any of us to think that something we’ve done and can’t ‘undo’ could now be costing us work. Yet, it is the time we live in.

  • http://www.careerleadershipcoaching.com Kris Parfitt

    Great example of cleaning up your integrity and being responsible Heather. I enjoyed the article and am disappointed to hear that people targeted their upsets onto you rather than voice their opinion from their point of view.

    Well done.

    Kris Parfitt
    Fellow Career Realism Expert

  • http://www.careerleadershipcoaching.com Kris Parfitt

    Great example of cleaning up your integrity and being responsible Heather. I enjoyed the article and am disappointed to hear that people targeted their upsets onto you rather than voice their opinion from their point of view.

    Well done.

    Kris Parfitt
    Fellow Career Realism Expert

  • http://careerenlightenment.net Joshua Waldman

    I read the WSJ article and found nothing offensive about it. Sometime people don’t like to hear the blunt truth about a matter. And it seems blacklisting a a taboo, which gets even more self-admitting denial.

    Nice job with handling the backlash. And remember that all press is good press. I couldn’t think of better timing for your book’s launch!
    .-= Joshua Waldman´s last blog ..Calling All Mentors =-.

  • http://careerenlightenment.net Joshua Waldman

    I read the WSJ article and found nothing offensive about it. Sometime people don’t like to hear the blunt truth about a matter. And it seems blacklisting a a taboo, which gets even more self-admitting denial.

    Nice job with handling the backlash. And remember that all press is good press. I couldn’t think of better timing for your book’s launch!
    .-= Joshua Waldman´s last blog ..Calling All Mentors =-.

  • http://www.creatingprints.com Rosa Vargas

    Heather,

    Unfortunately people take things literally sometimes but I understood the message. I believe your message is that the black-listed candidate should attempt to rectify her actions by recognizing she was unprofessional and reaching out to you. The “lunch buying ” was not meant to be taken literally. At least I didn’t see it that way. We all know how much you help people. Again, some people just don’t know how to read between the lines.

  • http://www.creatingprints.com Rosa Vargas

    Heather,

    Unfortunately people take things literally sometimes but I understood the message. I believe your message is that the black-listed candidate should attempt to rectify her actions by recognizing she was unprofessional and reaching out to you. The “lunch buying ” was not meant to be taken literally. At least I didn’t see it that way. We all know how much you help people. Again, some people just don’t know how to read between the lines.

  • http://www.professionalstudio365.com Emily Bennington

    Heather,

    Chin up. We’ve all had things appear in print or on film that we wish we would have said differently or more articulately. Happens to the best of us…just some are more public at times than others. ;-) Any logical reader would be able to see through the language to understand your true points and, if not, your record of helping young professionals does indeed speak for itself. So sleep soundly – this too shall pass. XOXO.

  • http://www.professionalstudio365.com Emily Bennington

    Heather,

    Chin up. We’ve all had things appear in print or on film that we wish we would have said differently or more articulately. Happens to the best of us…just some are more public at times than others. ;-) Any logical reader would be able to see through the language to understand your true points and, if not, your record of helping young professionals does indeed speak for itself. So sleep soundly – this too shall pass. XOXO.

  • http://www.blogging4jobs.com Jessica Miller-Merrell

    Heather,

    Your reputation and your record speaks for itself. You have helped thousands if not hundreds of thousands of job seekers with your insight and advice.

    I would not support re-interviewing a candidate who came to an interview drunk or high especially when my job as a recruiter and hiring manager is to look out for the best interests of the company. Because when we do allow people like this to be in consideration for a position within our company we are putting our own reputation and company at risk.

    Readers, Heather is just providing you with honest insight into the corporate world and the hiring process. Whether it is right or wrong doesn’t matter. What matters is that these things do happen and in order to put your best foot forward with an organization and obtain a job, you must arrive to an interview on time and without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol. If as a candidate, you do happen to arrive late or fail to arrive for a scheduled interview and you want to try to mend a bridge, a thank you note, phone call, or peace offering could be in order. Whether the recruiter accepts your peace offering is completely up to them and their company policies and culture.

    Jessica

    @blogging4jobs
    .-= Jessica Miller-Merrell´s last blog ..Taking Internal SM to the Next Level =-.

  • http://www.blogging4jobs.com Jessica Miller-Merrell

    Heather,

    Your reputation and your record speaks for itself. You have helped thousands if not hundreds of thousands of job seekers with your insight and advice.

    I would not support re-interviewing a candidate who came to an interview drunk or high especially when my job as a recruiter and hiring manager is to look out for the best interests of the company. Because when we do allow people like this to be in consideration for a position within our company we are putting our own reputation and company at risk.

    Readers, Heather is just providing you with honest insight into the corporate world and the hiring process. Whether it is right or wrong doesn’t matter. What matters is that these things do happen and in order to put your best foot forward with an organization and obtain a job, you must arrive to an interview on time and without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol. If as a candidate, you do happen to arrive late or fail to arrive for a scheduled interview and you want to try to mend a bridge, a thank you note, phone call, or peace offering could be in order. Whether the recruiter accepts your peace offering is completely up to them and their company policies and culture.

    Jessica

    @blogging4jobs
    .-= Jessica Miller-Merrell´s last blog ..Taking Internal SM to the Next Level =-.

  • http://www.CareerBranches.com Ilona Vanderwoude

    Heather,

    I agree – no apologies necessary. I read the article and took your quote as simply a series of “making amends” actions a person could take.

    Surprising what gets certain folks up in arms. Par for the course. You’re doing great…keep up the good work!

    Ilona Vanderwoude
    (Another Careerealism “colleague”)

  • http://www.CareerBranches.com Ilona Vanderwoude

    Heather,

    I agree – no apologies necessary. I read the article and took your quote as simply a series of “making amends” actions a person could take.

    Surprising what gets certain folks up in arms. Par for the course. You’re doing great…keep up the good work!

    Ilona Vanderwoude
    (Another Careerealism “colleague”)

  • http://www.blueskyresumes.com Louise Fletcher

    Hi Heather,

    Sorry you had a rough day. No kind deed goes unpunished ;-)

    I read the article and understood exactly what you were saying. I think maybe some people were shooting the messenger because they didn’t like the truth.

    Hope tomorrow is better!

  • http://www.blueskyresumes.com Louise Fletcher

    Hi Heather,

    Sorry you had a rough day. No kind deed goes unpunished ;-)

    I read the article and understood exactly what you were saying. I think maybe some people were shooting the messenger because they didn’t like the truth.

    Hope tomorrow is better!

  • http://www.gradversity.com Trevor Wilson

    I’m really not sure why you are getting hate mail. Having read both the original article and your (unnecessary) apology, I find it absolutely amazing that people either believe that:

    1. Blacklisting doesn’t happen.
    or
    2. Blacklisting shouldn’t happen.

    What’s really missing here is a hard look at things from the perspective of the employer. A company’s ultimate goal is to make a return for their shareholders, plain and simple. In every case, an employer needs to make absolutely sure that they are hiring the best available talent. A company has every right to maintain any list they like about who they would or would not like to hire. When it comes down to it, you have to win a job, you don’t have a right to that job.

    Unfortunately for the unlucky few, this can mean that mistakes you make can cost you a job. It happens, either through formal blacklisting, or just through a mental note saying “I don’t wish to hire this person”. Once biased, it’s extremely difficult to change someone’s mind. It’s a fact of life. It’s the old “you don’t get a second change to make a first impression”. And once it happens, you can either whine about it and send nasty emails, or you can pick yourself up and learn from the experience.

    This is a perfect example of why career coaches, bloggers, and advisors are needed. Not everyone has the naturual strengths and abilities to wow an employer. Job hunting is as much art as it is skill. No one person should ever assume that they have nothing to learn. Recruiting is an evolving practice. You have to stay current to have a chance.

    Heather, I don’t feel you did anything wrong (misquoted, misinterpreted or otherwise). What you did do was open the door to the realities of life. They may be angry now, but at least they are aware of some of the things they can do to avoid blacklists in the future.

    My two cents of course…
    .-= Trevor Wilson´s last blog ..January Roundup: The Best Gradversity Posts of January 2010 =-.

  • http://www.gradversity.com Trevor Wilson

    I’m really not sure why you are getting hate mail. Having read both the original article and your (unnecessary) apology, I find it absolutely amazing that people either believe that:

    1. Blacklisting doesn’t happen.
    or
    2. Blacklisting shouldn’t happen.

    What’s really missing here is a hard look at things from the perspective of the employer. A company’s ultimate goal is to make a return for their shareholders, plain and simple. In every case, an employer needs to make absolutely sure that they are hiring the best available talent. A company has every right to maintain any list they like about who they would or would not like to hire. When it comes down to it, you have to win a job, you don’t have a right to that job.

    Unfortunately for the unlucky few, this can mean that mistakes you make can cost you a job. It happens, either through formal blacklisting, or just through a mental note saying “I don’t wish to hire this person”. Once biased, it’s extremely difficult to change someone’s mind. It’s a fact of life. It’s the old “you don’t get a second change to make a first impression”. And once it happens, you can either whine about it and send nasty emails, or you can pick yourself up and learn from the experience.

    This is a perfect example of why career coaches, bloggers, and advisors are needed. Not everyone has the naturual strengths and abilities to wow an employer. Job hunting is as much art as it is skill. No one person should ever assume that they have nothing to learn. Recruiting is an evolving practice. You have to stay current to have a chance.

    Heather, I don’t feel you did anything wrong (misquoted, misinterpreted or otherwise). What you did do was open the door to the realities of life. They may be angry now, but at least they are aware of some of the things they can do to avoid blacklists in the future.

    My two cents of course…
    .-= Trevor Wilson´s last blog ..January Roundup: The Best Gradversity Posts of January 2010 =-.

  • http://julieannerickson.blogspot.com Julia Erickson

    Heather,
    What a wonderful post explaining your motives and offering great advice about how to get off a “blacklist.” I love that you stand by your remarks about the candidate you discussed, because she was incredibly unprofessional and not someone to pass on to a potential employer. After all, recruiters put their reputations on the line whenever they refer people – as do people in a job seeker’s network. It behooves job seekers to pay attention to their own behavior to make sure they would do someone proud in any job interview.

    Of course, there are those unintentional faux pas, and there are times when we behave stupidly for whatever reason. Thus, your suggestions are very helpful about how to rectify the situation. I’ve heard people have good luck when they call the recruiter and say “I think I messed up. Could you tell me what I did and how I can fix it? Because I value your opinion and knowledge of the field.” Often that humility works wonders. It’s usually unrecognized arrogance that turns people off.

    I’m so sorry to hear that your mother may be the victim of such a list, and I hope she is able to some day soon get free of it.

    You’re doing great work and I really respect your honesty. It reminds me of a saying “You know you’re doing something right when other people criticize you.” Because you are DOING something, putting yourself out there, taking a risk, and making a difference. Kudos to you!

    Julia
    .-= Julia Erickson´s last blog ..Now Available! Your "Right Fit" Job: Guide to Finding Work You Love =-.

  • http://julieannerickson.blogspot.com Julia Erickson

    Heather,
    What a wonderful post explaining your motives and offering great advice about how to get off a “blacklist.” I love that you stand by your remarks about the candidate you discussed, because she was incredibly unprofessional and not someone to pass on to a potential employer. After all, recruiters put their reputations on the line whenever they refer people – as do people in a job seeker’s network. It behooves job seekers to pay attention to their own behavior to make sure they would do someone proud in any job interview.

    Of course, there are those unintentional faux pas, and there are times when we behave stupidly for whatever reason. Thus, your suggestions are very helpful about how to rectify the situation. I’ve heard people have good luck when they call the recruiter and say “I think I messed up. Could you tell me what I did and how I can fix it? Because I value your opinion and knowledge of the field.” Often that humility works wonders. It’s usually unrecognized arrogance that turns people off.

    I’m so sorry to hear that your mother may be the victim of such a list, and I hope she is able to some day soon get free of it.

    You’re doing great work and I really respect your honesty. It reminds me of a saying “You know you’re doing something right when other people criticize you.” Because you are DOING something, putting yourself out there, taking a risk, and making a difference. Kudos to you!

    Julia
    .-= Julia Erickson´s last blog ..Now Available! Your "Right Fit" Job: Guide to Finding Work You Love =-.

  • http://www.keppiecareers.com Miriam Salpeter, Keppie Career

    It’s a shame that some readers misinterpreted your quote. This reminds me of how anything relating to job hunting can be a volatile topic. Emotions run high in job seekers who are frustrated with a process that can be confusing and may seem unfair. Anyone with a forum is an easy target for that frustration.

    I think it is great that you provided honest feedback to the woman you decided not to hire. You offered her an important service that may save her years of aggravation and confusion down the road.
    .-= Miriam Salpeter, Keppie Careers´s last blog ..Finding the silver lining in job search – Altruistic Tuesdays! =-.

  • http://www.keppiecareers.com Miriam Salpeter, Keppie Careers

    It’s a shame that some readers misinterpreted your quote. This reminds me of how anything relating to job hunting can be a volatile topic. Emotions run high in job seekers who are frustrated with a process that can be confusing and may seem unfair. Anyone with a forum is an easy target for that frustration.

    I think it is great that you provided honest feedback to the woman you decided not to hire. You offered her an important service that may save her years of aggravation and confusion down the road.
    .-= Miriam Salpeter, Keppie Careers´s last blog ..Finding the silver lining in job search – Altruistic Tuesdays! =-.

  • http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog Mark Stelzner

    Congratulations Heather. If you’re getting hate mail it means you have arrived! I mean that in the most positive way.

    Listen, blacklists exist and I think the real opportunity for you is to write/blog/coach people on how to avoid being on them. The “free lunch” comment is taken out of context but a good metaphor nonetheless. Great apology but your readers need to both read AND understand. Some just didn’t take the time to interpret what the intent really was. Again, congrats. Hate mail rocks! :)
    .-= Mark Stelzner´s last blog ..7 Life Lessons From Moving =-.

  • http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog Mark Stelzner

    Congratulations Heather. If you’re getting hate mail it means you have arrived! I mean that in the most positive way.

    Listen, blacklists exist and I think the real opportunity for you is to write/blog/coach people on how to avoid being on them. The “free lunch” comment is taken out of context but a good metaphor nonetheless. Great apology but your readers need to both read AND understand. Some just didn’t take the time to interpret what the intent really was. Again, congrats. Hate mail rocks! :)
    .-= Mark Stelzner´s last blog ..7 Life Lessons From Moving =-.

  • http://rehaul.com Lance Haun

    I agree with Mark: hate mail is the best. Now, I don’t go out and write things just to aggravate people. You don’t either. But when you speak unbridled truth about a touchy subject, some people aren’t going to be pleased with that. Tough cookies for them though.

    Listen, I love my readers but I am not going to couch my views in a bunch of disclaimers. Life is full of time restrictions, I can’t explain every nuance of my statements. Neither can you.

    BTW So glad I got the chance to meet you in DC.
    .-= Lance Haun´s last blog ..Doing a Career Transition the Right Way =-.

  • http://rehaul.com Lance Haun

    I agree with Mark: hate mail is the best. Now, I don’t go out and write things just to aggravate people. You don’t either. But when you speak unbridled truth about a touchy subject, some people aren’t going to be pleased with that. Tough cookies for them though.

    Listen, I love my readers but I am not going to couch my views in a bunch of disclaimers. Life is full of time restrictions, I can’t explain every nuance of my statements. Neither can you.

    BTW So glad I got the chance to meet you in DC.
    .-= Lance Haun´s last blog ..Doing a Career Transition the Right Way =-.

  • Aubrey Mondi

    I mean this in the best possible way – you’ve helped me in the past, and I thank you for that, so I hope you don’t take offense to what I’m going to say…

    But are you worrying, even a little, that now everyone is saying that they support you and forgive you to avoid being put on your blacklist?

    *cringe*

    Which I guess, in a way, is a back-handed sort of compliment. It was just a thought. I’m not sure how to best bounce back from something like this, but at least you addressed it. Good first step.

  • Aubrey Mondi

    I mean this in the best possible way – you’ve helped me in the past, and I thank you for that, so I hope you don’t take offense to what I’m going to say…

    But are you worrying, even a little, that now everyone is saying that they support you and forgive you to avoid being put on your blacklist?

    *cringe*

    Which I guess, in a way, is a back-handed sort of compliment. It was just a thought. I’m not sure how to best bounce back from something like this, but at least you addressed it. Good first step.

  • Heather R. Huhman

    Aubrey,

    No, I’m not — not in the slightest. These people are not being interviewed by me. And if they were, that’s your suggestion to candidates — lie to a hiring manager telling her you support her to avoid being on her blacklist?

    I’m sorry you don’t understand how blacklisting works. I had hoped to further educate my audience about it with this post since the article wasn’t able to cover everything, but there’s only so much I can do.

    Glad I’ve helped you out in the past — I believe that’s my mission in life, which is why I dedicate nearly every waking minute to doing so. If some people can’t see that, then so be it.

    Heather

  • Heather R. Huhman

    Aubrey,

    No, I’m not — not in the slightest. These people are not being interviewed by me. And if they were, that’s your suggestion to candidates — lie to a hiring manager telling her you support her to avoid being on her blacklist?

    I’m sorry you don’t understand how blacklisting works. I had hoped to further educate my audience about it with this post since the article wasn’t able to cover everything, but there’s only so much I can do.

    Glad I’ve helped you out in the past — I believe that’s my mission in life, which is why I dedicate nearly every waking minute to doing so. If some people can’t see that, then so be it.

    Heather

  • Sunaina Bhatnagar

    Heather, I find it unfortunate that your quote was taken out of context and that it was misinterpreted. I can personally attest to the fact that you have helped me grow on a professional level. I’m grateful to you for your kindness and insight. The compassion you demonstrate towards your mission of helping young professionals is truly amazing. I hope others folks realize that your intent in contributing to the article was solely to further educate the audience you care so dearly for.

  • Sunaina Bhatnagar

    Heather, I find it unfortunate that your quote was taken out of context and that it was misinterpreted. I can personally attest to the fact that you have helped me grow on a professional level. I’m grateful to you for your kindness and insight. The compassion you demonstrate towards your mission of helping young professionals is truly amazing. I hope others folks realize that your intent in contributing to the article was solely to further educate the audience you care so dearly for.

  • Lisa Atufunwa

    Heather,

    Like another person said, I don’t understand why you’re receiving hate mail and uncivil comments. You don’t have to apologize for anything. Blacklisting or blackballed is everywhere; not just in the hiring process. That article in the WSJ was just another piece of advice to job seekers. If they took it the wrong way, they really should go back and re-read the article because they are missing the overall message.

    Please don’t let this keep you down. If people are really upset over this, then there is something deeper that is bothering them. I hope you’re feeling better. I expect a happy tweet/Skype message soon. :-D

  • Lisa Atufunwa

    Heather,

    Like another person said, I don’t understand why you’re receiving hate mail and uncivil comments. You don’t have to apologize for anything. Blacklisting or blackballed is everywhere; not just in the hiring process. That article in the WSJ was just another piece of advice to job seekers. If they took it the wrong way, they really should go back and re-read the article because they are missing the overall message.

    Please don’t let this keep you down. If people are really upset over this, then there is something deeper that is bothering them. I hope you’re feeling better. I expect a happy tweet/Skype message soon. :-D

  • Aubrey Mondi

    …I’d like to think you misinterpreted my comment because today’s been a crappy day for you. Obviously, if people have been mean to you all day long, I can see how what I said sounded really negative. Let me try again.

    I would never suggest lying to a hiring manager, or anyone, for that matter – especially when it comes to your qualifications. But I wouldn’t put it past some people to do so, to try to get ahead. My comment was merely a suggestion of, hey, this might be another thing you haven’t thought of that maybe you want to look out for, because people suck sometimes.

    I was thinking of how you help people and will most likely continue to do so, as you’ve stated, and how some candidates might take advantage of that in the future.

    I’d prefer in the future, if I’m not clear, for you to ask me for clarification. I would never suggest anything of the sort to candidates, as you implied…and that stung a bit to read that you thought that.

  • Aubrey Mondi

    …I’d like to think you misinterpreted my comment because today’s been a crappy day for you. Obviously, if people have been mean to you all day long, I can see how what I said sounded really negative. Let me try again.

    I would never suggest lying to a hiring manager, or anyone, for that matter – especially when it comes to your qualifications. But I wouldn’t put it past some people to do so, to try to get ahead. My comment was merely a suggestion of, hey, this might be another thing you haven’t thought of that maybe you want to look out for, because people suck sometimes.

    I was thinking of how you help people and will most likely continue to do so, as you’ve stated, and how some candidates might take advantage of that in the future.

    I’d prefer in the future, if I’m not clear, for you to ask me for clarification. I would never suggest anything of the sort to candidates, as you implied…and that stung a bit to read that you thought that.

  • http://www.ashleechisholm.com Ashlee

    I read the WSJ article and I do not see the problem with black listing an unprofessional job candidate. One of the main reasons for an interview is to wean out the undesirables. If someone is belligerent during an interview, you can only imagine how obnoxious they would be if hired. However, I do not agree with employers telling everyone they know to not consider that person. People make mistakes and should not have to suffer for years due to one mishap.

  • http://www.ashleechisholm.com Ashlee

    I read the WSJ article and I do not see the problem with black listing an unprofessional job candidate. One of the main reasons for an interview is to wean out the undesirables. If someone is belligerent during an interview, you can only imagine how obnoxious they would be if hired. However, I do not agree with employers telling everyone they know to not consider that person. People make mistakes and should not have to suffer for years due to one mishap.

  • http://www.kristinaallenpr.com Kristina Allen

    Agreed, Heather.

    I don’t think you need to worry that the people commenting with support are just trying to avoid being blacklisted by you, considering the majority seem to be colleagues not candidates.

    That being said, I thought it was quite funny to read your lunch comment — which was clearly (at least to me) taken out of context. The WSJ is known as quite a credible media outlet, and to suggest that they used a source that was not credible (aka a professional hiring manager who would honestly support a candidate buying his or her way off of a blacklist) just seems illogical to me.

    Additionally, as someone who works for and with you, I can vouch for your complete professionalism. It’s something I very much admire.
    .-= Kristina Allen´s last blog ..Interview with Gen Y Journalist, Stephanie Minasian =-.

  • http://www.kristinaallenpr.com Kristina Allen

    Agreed, Heather.

    I don’t think you need to worry that the people commenting with support are just trying to avoid being blacklisted by you, considering the majority seem to be colleagues not candidates.

    That being said, I thought it was quite funny to read your lunch comment — which was clearly (at least to me) taken out of context. The WSJ is known as quite a credible media outlet, and to suggest that they used a source that was not credible (aka a professional hiring manager who would honestly support a candidate buying his or her way off of a blacklist) just seems illogical to me.

    Additionally, as someone who works for and with you, I can vouch for your complete professionalism. It’s something I very much admire.
    .-= Kristina Allen´s last blog ..Interview with Gen Y Journalist, Stephanie Minasian =-.

  • Rachel

    Hang on a sec, I think Aubrey has a good point. Although she’s taking this in a different direction than you wanted to go, it’s a valid concern – it’s likely that a person pouring out empathy to you now is more likely to avoid blacklisting from you in the future.

    And I certainly don’t think she was implying that candidates should lie to a hiring manager to avoid blacklisting – there’s a huge difference between showing sympathy now when you need a lift (which will paint the commiserator in a good light) and outright lying to a hiring manager, right?

    You used buying lunch as an example of getting off a blacklist – I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch for a person to use compassion proactively to avoid blacklisting.

  • Rachel

    Hang on a sec, I think Aubrey has a good point. Although she’s taking this in a different direction than you wanted to go, it’s a valid concern – it’s likely that a person pouring out empathy to you now is more likely to avoid blacklisting from you in the future.

    And I certainly don’t think she was implying that candidates should lie to a hiring manager to avoid blacklisting – there’s a huge difference between showing sympathy now when you need a lift (which will paint the commiserator in a good light) and outright lying to a hiring manager, right?

    You used buying lunch as an example of getting off a blacklist – I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch for a person to use compassion proactively to avoid blacklisting.

  • http://www.job-hunt.org Susan P. Joyce

    Knowing you to be the professional and caring person that you are, it’s unfortunate that this misunderstanding happened.

    But I think putting out this very well-written response in rebuttal was both a brave and a smart response, particularly in this era of Google knowing and telling all. Forever.

    I think this has been an educational experience for everyone.

  • http://www.job-hunt.org Susan P. Joyce

    Knowing you to be the professional and caring person that you are, it’s unfortunate that this misunderstanding happened.

    But I think putting out this very well-written response in rebuttal was both a brave and a smart response, particularly in this era of Google knowing and telling all. Forever.

    I think this has been an educational experience for everyone.

  • Heather R. Huhman

    Aubrey,

    What you said was extremely clear — am I worried that people are posting false messages of support here in order to get on my “good side”. I simply disagreed with you — and did ask for a bit of clarification in the same way you gave your comment (on this blog).

    To be honest, your comment did upset me, particularly since we have worked together in the past. Actually, that’s been the most upsetting part of the day — to receive such negative messages from people who KNOW me, not the complete strangers.

    But, I guess the end point here is that I would never think less of a candidate who posts here for disagreeing with me — nor would I think more of a candidate who posts here for AGREEING with me. That kind of bias is just plain silly, particularly since none of us are ALWAYS right!

    Perhaps we’ve both learned something today.

    Heather

  • Heather R. Huhman

    Aubrey,

    What you said was extremely clear — am I worried that people are posting false messages of support here in order to get on my “good side”. I simply disagreed with you — and did ask for a bit of clarification in the same way you gave your comment (on this blog).

    To be honest, your comment did upset me, particularly since we have worked together in the past. Actually, that’s been the most upsetting part of the day — to receive such negative messages from people who KNOW me, not the complete strangers.

    But, I guess the end point here is that I would never think less of a candidate who posts here for disagreeing with me — nor would I think more of a candidate who posts here for AGREEING with me. That kind of bias is just plain silly, particularly since none of us are ALWAYS right!

    Perhaps we’ve both learned something today.

    Heather

  • Heather R. Huhman

    Rachel,

    As I just replied to Aubrey, that is absolutely not true. If a candidate who posted a positive comment (one they truly did not believe in — which is LYING in my book, but perhaps that’s just how I was raised), and they showed up to an interview drunk or one of the other examples I’d gave, they’d still be blacklisted as a candidate not fit for my company. Period.

    And I used buying lunch as the FIRST STEP IN CREATING A CONVERSATION to get off my blacklist — there’s a HUGE difference! Someone cannot simply take me out to lunch to get off my blacklist, let me make that clear right now. I guess I am at a loss as to why people are focusing on the example I gave as the first step in a multi-step process to get off someone’s blacklist.

    As I told Ms. Lublin, this is not some written list I keep. Others in the article state they do, but I am not them. I don’t agree with everything the article says, and everyone on this blog is certainly free to disagree with me — WITHOUT worrying about being blacklisted, geez. My point to Aubrey was I’m just not that shallow! Other people might be, but I’m not — and I admit that since she knows me, I expected a different response.

    I said it to Aubrey and I’ll say it again — this has been a learning opportunity for all of us I hope. Now the candidates I love to help know blacklists exist. And I know I’ve learned that sometimes my frank, direct approach to topics offends people — certainly not the outcome I ever intend — and job hunting in particular is a touchy subject. I plan to continue giving honest advice, but hopefully we can avoid words like “blacklist” (which I really hate and told Ms. Lublin I don’t actually use) in the future.

    Thanks so much for your comment.

    Heather

  • Heather R. Huhman

    Rachel,

    As I just replied to Aubrey, that is absolutely not true. If a candidate who posted a positive comment (one they truly did not believe in — which is LYING in my book, but perhaps that’s just how I was raised), and they showed up to an interview drunk or one of the other examples I’d gave, they’d still be blacklisted as a candidate not fit for my company. Period.

    And I used buying lunch as the FIRST STEP IN CREATING A CONVERSATION to get off my blacklist — there’s a HUGE difference! Someone cannot simply take me out to lunch to get off my blacklist, let me make that clear right now. I guess I am at a loss as to why people are focusing on the example I gave as the first step in a multi-step process to get off someone’s blacklist.

    As I told Ms. Lublin, this is not some written list I keep. Others in the article state they do, but I am not them. I don’t agree with everything the article says, and everyone on this blog is certainly free to disagree with me — WITHOUT worrying about being blacklisted, geez. My point to Aubrey was I’m just not that shallow! Other people might be, but I’m not — and I admit that since she knows me, I expected a different response.

    I said it to Aubrey and I’ll say it again — this has been a learning opportunity for all of us I hope. Now the candidates I love to help know blacklists exist. And I know I’ve learned that sometimes my frank, direct approach to topics offends people — certainly not the outcome I ever intend — and job hunting in particular is a touchy subject. I plan to continue giving honest advice, but hopefully we can avoid words like “blacklist” (which I really hate and told Ms. Lublin I don’t actually use) in the future.

    Thanks so much for your comment.

    Heather

  • Ned Burriss

    As a engineer who needs to do hiring, filtering is the name of the game. If I have one opening and 400 applicants, how and I supposed to narrow that down? My job is to get the most qualified, dependable candidate for my company. Easy filters are typos on resumes, poor writing skills, and other mistakes. If you are applying for a job you need to be giving me your “A game.” Simple as that. Next in line is actual qualifications for the position. When I get to the point where I want to start interviewing in person, personal actions count. Showing up drunk, swearing at other drivers while one a phone interview, or showing up dressed inappropriately are easy ways to get cut. Lying about your references, school history, or work history will get you black listed. Plain as that. If you can’t be honest about something as simple as that, how can I possibly trust you at my company? We have large contracts we need to work on, with other peoples reputations and livelihoods at stake. I will never share my black list, but any future chance at my company for the lying will prevent you from permanently working there.

  • Ned Burriss

    As a engineer who needs to do hiring, filtering is the name of the game. If I have one opening and 400 applicants, how and I supposed to narrow that down? My job is to get the most qualified, dependable candidate for my company. Easy filters are typos on resumes, poor writing skills, and other mistakes. If you are applying for a job you need to be giving me your “A game.” Simple as that. Next in line is actual qualifications for the position. When I get to the point where I want to start interviewing in person, personal actions count. Showing up drunk, swearing at other drivers while one a phone interview, or showing up dressed inappropriately are easy ways to get cut. Lying about your references, school history, or work history will get you black listed. Plain as that. If you can’t be honest about something as simple as that, how can I possibly trust you at my company? We have large contracts we need to work on, with other peoples reputations and livelihoods at stake. I will never share my black list, but any future chance at my company for the lying will prevent you from permanently working there.

  • R.M.R. Risner

    Hi ALL!

    I am one of those people who wrote that I was outraged at the suggestion that if I buy you lunch, i get off your black list…Hate mail? No, I don’t think so. And folks, it wasn’t taken out of context…it was there in black and white. Are black lists a reality? Of course. The problem is, especially in the Internet age is “HOW DO YOU KNOW THE INFORMATION IS TRUE?” Maybe a candidate DID lie on a resume. Does that then disqualify that candidate from any job ever? Perhaps the candidate learned their lesson and now the resume is completely true…what now? Does an error in judgment doom a person for life? A close read of the WSJ article seems to say yes. As I said in my email to Heather, “I hope you never have the experience of being on a Blacklist.”

  • R.M.R. Risner

    Hi ALL!

    I am one of those people who wrote that I was outraged at the suggestion that if I buy you lunch, i get off your black list…Hate mail? No, I don’t think so. And folks, it wasn’t taken out of context…it was there in black and white. Are black lists a reality? Of course. The problem is, especially in the Internet age is “HOW DO YOU KNOW THE INFORMATION IS TRUE?” Maybe a candidate DID lie on a resume. Does that then disqualify that candidate from any job ever? Perhaps the candidate learned their lesson and now the resume is completely true…what now? Does an error in judgment doom a person for life? A close read of the WSJ article seems to say yes. As I said in my email to Heather, “I hope you never have the experience of being on a Blacklist.”

  • Heather R. Huhman

    R.M.R.,

    I see you’re still upset, but clearly you didn’t read my post very carefully. My comment was all about how to CORRECT the situation. And no, being on one person’s blacklist (mine for example) does not “disqualify that candidate from any job ever”. It simply disqualifies that candidate from a job within MY COMPANY, until the error is corrected with me personally. There is a definite distinction.

    Thanks for your comment.

    Heather

  • Heather R. Huhman

    R.M.R.,

    I see you’re still upset, but clearly you didn’t read my post very carefully. My comment was all about how to CORRECT the situation. And no, being on one person’s blacklist (mine for example) does not “disqualify that candidate from any job ever”. It simply disqualifies that candidate from a job within MY COMPANY, until the error is corrected with me personally. There is a definite distinction.

    Thanks for your comment.

    Heather

  • http://lindsayolson.com Lindsay Olson

    Heather, I read the article yesterday, too. I thought it portrayed both candidates and recruiters/hiring managers as a bunch of jerks, constantly battling one another. A good topic, but very selective quoting. The article would have been much more helpful for readers if it focused a bit more on what they should do if they are concerned they are “blacklisted” like you did in this blog post. Your statements are absolutely correct, unfortunately some people took it out of context. You can’t please everyone.

    You do so much to help rising PR stars in the industry. I think everyone who knows your work realizes that.
    .-= Lindsay Olson´s last blog ..Golden Grant Stimulus Package and Giveaway! =-.

  • http://lindsayolson.com Lindsay Olson

    Heather, I read the article yesterday, too. I thought it portrayed both candidates and recruiters/hiring managers as a bunch of jerks, constantly battling one another. A good topic, but very selective quoting. The article would have been much more helpful for readers if it focused a bit more on what they should do if they are concerned they are “blacklisted” like you did in this blog post. Your statements are absolutely correct, unfortunately some people took it out of context. You can’t please everyone.

    You do so much to help rising PR stars in the industry. I think everyone who knows your work realizes that.
    .-= Lindsay Olson´s last blog ..Golden Grant Stimulus Package and Giveaway! =-.

  • http://twitter.com/jesslaw Jessica

    Wow, I’m honestly surprised at some of these comments. After reading the article, I didn’t even feel that it was really taken out of context. It makes sense; that particular candidate made a HUGE mistake. She deserves to not get the job and not be considered for further positions with your company. If that candidate was to professionally approach Heather (I don’t think Heather necessarily even meant “buy her lunch” literally) to seek information about why she was not hired and to ask for advice for future interviews, Heather would definitely oblige.

    I can personally attest to how helpful Heather has been in launching my PR career. After my internship with Heather, I had the experience of writing a whole PR plan by myself under my belt and a wonderful letter of recommendation that opened the doors to so many other wonderful opportunities. Thanks again, Heather.

  • http://twitter.com/jesslaw Jessica

    Wow, I’m honestly surprised at some of these comments. After reading the article, I didn’t even feel that it was really taken out of context. It makes sense; that particular candidate made a HUGE mistake. She deserves to not get the job and not be considered for further positions with your company. If that candidate was to professionally approach Heather (I don’t think Heather necessarily even meant “buy her lunch” literally) to seek information about why she was not hired and to ask for advice for future interviews, Heather would definitely oblige.

    I can personally attest to how helpful Heather has been in launching my PR career. After my internship with Heather, I had the experience of writing a whole PR plan by myself under my belt and a wonderful letter of recommendation that opened the doors to so many other wonderful opportunities. Thanks again, Heather.

  • Paul

    Heather, I see you have made the big time with the hate mail and negativity that I see in some of the comments to this post and I say that in a good way. First let me just say that I applaud you for your comments and don’t believe you even owed an explanation to anyone. People write things all the time you read and you either like it or you don’t.
    While I think you are an amazing person, respect what you do to help people and liked having you as a guest on my BTR Show, I wouldn’t put you on a platform where I would agree with everything you said just to be on your “A” list. That is why I think that the comment made by Aubrey,RMR and Rachel are comical. Are you that powerful that you can make or break someone’s career..?I think not but apparently these people spend too much time either on Twitter or other Social Media forums and believe you do.
    Keep doing what you are doing because apparently in some people eyes you are becoming a god like figure.
    I would even be willing to do a show on it and have you with some of these naysayers on to discuss the issue. Let me know and for now great stuff you are doing
    Ciao

  • Paul

    Heather, I see you have made the big time with the hate mail and negativity that I see in some of the comments to this post and I say that in a good way. First let me just say that I applaud you for your comments and don’t believe you even owed an explanation to anyone. People write things all the time you read and you either like it or you don’t.
    While I think you are an amazing person, respect what you do to help people and liked having you as a guest on my BTR Show, I wouldn’t put you on a platform where I would agree with everything you said just to be on your “A” list. That is why I think that the comment made by Aubrey,RMR and Rachel are comical. Are you that powerful that you can make or break someone’s career..?I think not but apparently these people spend too much time either on Twitter or other Social Media forums and believe you do.
    Keep doing what you are doing because apparently in some people eyes you are becoming a god like figure.
    I would even be willing to do a show on it and have you with some of these naysayers on to discuss the issue. Let me know and for now great stuff you are doing
    Ciao